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What's going on with Car #7 (a semi-objective analysis)...

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I give him slightly less credibility than myself...


Oh, wait...


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don't feel bad...so do we...:oops:
 


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Ok, it may be time to chow on a little crow. After digging (and more digging) it -may- turn out that some of what Mr. RacerX (and our own highly credible DRAGRCR) have recently reported as it relates to the elusive Last Call Car #7 could be closer to the truth than I originally surmised.

Now mind you, nothing has been OFFICIALLY said either way by Dodge brass (yet), but those who know TimK well -seem- to be leaking bits and pieces.

A few things I learned in the last 24h or so...

0. Believe it or not Mr. RacerX may in fact be getting some/most of his intel straight from Dodge. If you go back to his early posts he suggested that Dodge reached out to him. I am not a subscriber to the guy so I'm betting some of you may know more about his background. All I know is that he raced a modded HC a few years ago and has a fair number of followers, so Dodge may be using his ability to spread information quickly. Regardless, he needs to plant a tree or two in his yard! lol.

1. Zero percent chance Dodge can or wants to produce 3312 of these cars (i.e. the Demon production number). I am told a number closer to 500 is what is likely possible in this short run (esp with production and mechanical issues they are experiencing).

2. As for the recent mechanical issues that have been reported, my source (as well as that article you may have seen) says that the problem has been identified and production is back on schedule, albeit delayed from the initial timeline. We are now looking at some sort of announcement ~Q1 2023.

3. Dodge would like to limit 'flipping' since it will be a highly sought-after, valuable car. They also are not a fan of massive ADM gouging and their plan addresses both of these concerns.

4. Combining 1 and 2 above they may be looking at giving a shot to Demon owners who bought their car new AND still own it. This serves double duty of limiting flipping (since these owners could have flipped 100x over by now and haven't) and it also shrinks that 3312 Demon owner pool by a big percentage. 50%? 70% 80%? This route has not been set but is being seriously considered.

5. Horsepower may very well be in excess of 1000hp. This contradicts what I was originally told but to me, it makes more sense when you hear that they are grenading engines. 900hp? As many have noted here, that seems unlikely. 1000+? More likely. Anyhow not confirmed but this HP range was strongly hinted at by someone I trust. I have been unable to get more detail on how they get to their final number but others online are suggesting the Hellaphant 3.0 blower and a smaller pulley and of course E85. I asked about the "electric" supercharger but so far no one can confirm or deny that. To me the idea seems silly, but I guess you never know.

6. Dealers are completely in the dark. This is why I was hesitant to accept what DRAGRCR was suggesting initially. None of the big dealers are aware of this possible plan, and I've spoken to over 125 of them over the past couple of weeks. In fact, many are making car #7 lists and several are taking deposits on a car that has not been revealed. I guess keeping them in the dark makes sense if the plan is to cut them out of the process.

7. If all of this comes to pass (again -not certain-), there would be a registration process/window to show you are a Demon owner (and possibly that you are the original owner). There would then be an expedited approval process to make sure what you provided was indeed true.

8. I was told some or all of the payment would go directly through Dodge. The price would be MSRP, no ADM. The way it could work from there is how DRAGRCR said. The customer would decide what local dealer gets delivery.

9. Related to 7, my source says the powers that be are -not- a fan of a lottery. They would much rather be able to make enough cars that fit the end criteria Dodge ultimately uses (that also gets them into the desired production of ~300-700 units).

10. On that last point, I asked why such deference to Demon owners? Answer given: "Because they were promised that no Challenger would ever exceed the Demon." Well, this one will. So one way for Tim K to keep his word is to offer these owners an opportunity to buy this last-call car. If you look at it in that light, it begins to make sense. Tim is many things, including a guy who seems to be genuine and someone who doesn't want to go back on his word. Call me jaded, but I was surprised that this was an actual consideration.

Again, nothing above is a stone-cold fact but simply (well-placed) rumblings I am hearing from people in the know who I trust. A LOT has shifted apparently over the past week or so. Dodge is surely hearing about how Last Call Cars 1-6 are being jacked up to crazy levels. Another possible factor there could be news that the dealerships are also planning to ask ASTRONOMICAL ADMs for the #7 car if given the chance. No idea where they might have gotten that type of dealer-specific intel! ;) Maybe all the recent dealer skullduggery is shifting how Dodge will deal with their final ICE Halo Car. As of right now, the process definitely still seems to be fluid. The downtime to get the car right likely will also be used to figure out how to allocate it. Whatever they decide, at least it won't be rushed.

From where I am sitting, all of this intrigue is pretty interesting. It reminds me of the massive hype build-up for the Demon. I think it would be fitting if Dodge goes out on a similar hype-machine extravaganza...
 


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That ain't his yard, its the dog park, where his dog is trying to do his business while he films....

Electric supercharger: there used to be a group of guys in a shop using a leaf blower to "force" induct a Honda on a dyno. It was a great watch. At the end, they get a bottle of N20 and just hold it and spray it into the leaf blowers intake at maximum RPM and that little Honda motor jumps like a scalded dog, but I cannot find it anymore. I personally just do not see this is a meaningful option for Dodge at this level. It would be R&D and parts / support nightmare for little to no longterm / cross over utility for other vehicles.

And since i do not have a new demon in the garage, I'm out of on this one.
 


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That ain't his yard, its the dog park, where his dog is trying to do his business while he films....

Electric supercharger: there used to be a group of guys in a shop using a leaf blower to "force" induct a Honda on a dyno. It was a great watch. At the end, they get a bottle of N20 and just hold it and spray it into the leaf blowers intake at maximum RPM and that little Honda motor jumps like a scalded dog, but I cannot find it anymore. I personally just do not see this is a meaningful option for Dodge at this level. It would be R&D and parts / support nightmare for little to no longterm / cross over utility for other vehicles.

And since i do not have a new demon in the garage, I'm out of on this one.
Well if it's a dog park, even more need for a tree or two, no? Or at least a fire hydrant!
 


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It proves they (the owners) don’t give a chit. About this last Hellcat, last year.
 


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5. Horsepower may very well be in excess of 1000hp. This contradicts what I was originally told but to me, it makes more sense when you hear that they are grenading engines. 900hp? As many have noted here, that seems unlikely. 1000+? More likely. Anyhow not confirmed but this HP range was strongly hinted at by someone I trust. I have been unable to get more detail on how they get to their final number but others online are suggesting the Hellaphant 3.0 blower and a smaller pulley and of course E85. I asked about the "electric" supercharger but so far no one can confirm or deny that. To me the idea seems silly, but I guess you never know.

See the "Hellephant" thread!
 


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I would be more surprised if there even is a high hp 7th car. Engine and drivetrain breaking was verified from someone I know that knows people on the inside as with what has been reported. They will not spend millions of dollars to fix the issues when they are going to abandon the platform. They could do a 909 hp just to say they beat the Demon but this all out 1.29 60 ft car doesn't not look like it will happen
 


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Ok, it may be time to chow on a little crow. After digging (and more digging) it -may- turn out that some of what Mr. RacerX (and our own highly credible DRAGRCR) have recently reported as it relates to the elusive Last Call Car #7 could be closer to the truth than I originally surmised.

Now mind you, nothing has been OFFICIALLY said either way by Dodge brass (yet), but those who know TimK well -seem- to be leaking bits and pieces.

A few things I learned in the last 24h or so...

0. Believe it or not Mr. RacerX may in fact be getting some/most of his intel straight from Dodge. If you go back to his early posts he suggested that Dodge reached out to him. I am not a subscriber to the guy so I'm betting some of you may know more about his background. All I know is that he raced a modded HC a few years ago and has a fair number of followers, so Dodge may be using his ability to spread information quickly. Regardless, he needs to plant a tree or two in his yard! lol.

1. Zero percent chance Dodge can or wants to produce 3312 of these cars (i.e. the Demon production number). I am told a number closer to 500 is what is likely possible in this short run (esp with production and mechanical issues they are experiencing).

2. As for the recent mechanical issues that have been reported, my source (as well as that article you may have seen) says that the problem has been identified and production is back on schedule, albeit delayed from the initial timeline. We are now looking at some sort of announcement ~Q1 2023.

3. Dodge would like to limit 'flipping' since it will be a highly sought-after, valuable car. They also are not a fan of massive ADM gouging and their plan addresses both of these concerns.

4. Combining 1 and 2 above they may be looking at giving a shot to Demon owners who bought their car new AND still own it. This serves double duty of limiting flipping (since these owners could have flipped 100x over by now and haven't) and it also shrinks that 3312 Demon owner pool by a big percentage. 50%? 70% 80%? This route has not been set but is being seriously considered.

5. Horsepower may very well be in excess of 1000hp. This contradicts what I was originally told but to me, it makes more sense when you hear that they are grenading engines. 900hp? As many have noted here, that seems unlikely. 1000+? More likely. Anyhow not confirmed but this HP range was strongly hinted at by someone I trust. I have been unable to get more detail on how they get to their final number but others online are suggesting the Hellaphant 3.0 blower and a smaller pulley and of course E85. I asked about the "electric" supercharger but so far no one can confirm or deny that. To me the idea seems silly, but I guess you never know.

6. Dealers are completely in the dark. This is why I was hesitant to accept what DRAGRCR was suggesting initially. None of the big dealers are aware of this possible plan, and I've spoken to over 125 of them over the past couple of weeks. In fact, many are making car #7 lists and several are taking deposits on a car that has not been revealed. I guess keeping them in the dark makes sense if the plan is to cut them out of the process.

7. If all of this comes to pass (again -not certain-), there would be a registration process/window to show you are a Demon owner (and possibly that you are the original owner). There would then be an expedited approval process to make sure what you provided was indeed true.

8. I was told some or all of the payment would go directly through Dodge. The price would be MSRP, no ADM. The way it could work from there is how DRAGRCR said. The customer would decide what local dealer gets delivery.

9. Related to 7, my source says the powers that be are -not- a fan of a lottery. They would much rather be able to make enough cars that fit the end criteria Dodge ultimately uses (that also gets them into the desired production of ~300-700 units).

10. On that last point, I asked why such deference to Demon owners? Answer given: "Because they were promised that no Challenger would ever exceed the Demon." Well, this one will. So one way for Tim K to keep his word is to offer these owners an opportunity to buy this last-call car. If you look at it in that light, it begins to make sense. Tim is many things, including a guy who seems to be genuine and someone who doesn't want to go back on his word. Call me jaded, but I was surprised that this was an actual consideration.

Again, nothing above is a stone-cold fact but simply (well-placed) rumblings I am hearing from people in the know who I trust. A LOT has shifted apparently over the past week or so. Dodge is surely hearing about how Last Call Cars 1-6 are being jacked up to crazy levels. Another possible factor there could be news that the dealerships are also planning to ask ASTRONOMICAL ADMs for the #7 car if given the chance. No idea where they might have gotten that type of dealer-specific intel! ;) Maybe all the recent dealer skullduggery is shifting how Dodge will deal with their final ICE Halo Car. As of right now, the process definitely still seems to be fluid. The downtime to get the car right likely will also be used to figure out how to allocate it. Whatever they decide, at least it won't be rushed.

From where I am sitting, all of this intrigue is pretty interesting. It reminds me of the massive hype build-up for the Demon. I think it would be fitting if Dodge goes out on a similar hype-machine extravaganza...
Ok, it may be time to chow on a little crow. After digging (and more digging) it -may- turn out that some of what Mr. RacerX (and our own highly credible DRAGRCR) have recently reported as it relates to the elusive Last Call Car #7 could be closer to the truth than I originally surmised.

Now mind you, nothing has been OFFICIALLY said either way by Dodge brass (yet), but those who know TimK well -seem- to be leaking bits and pieces.

A few things I learned in the last 24h or so...

0. Believe it or not Mr. RacerX may in fact be getting some/most of his intel straight from Dodge. If you go back to his early posts he suggested that Dodge reached out to him. I am not a subscriber to the guy so I'm betting some of you may know more about his background. All I know is that he raced a modded HC a few years ago and has a fair number of followers, so Dodge may be using his ability to spread information quickly. Regardless, he needs to plant a tree or two in his yard! lol.

1. Zero percent chance Dodge can or wants to produce 3312 of these cars (i.e. the Demon production number). I am told a number closer to 500 is what is likely possible in this short run (esp with production and mechanical issues they are experiencing).

2. As for the recent mechanical issues that have been reported, my source (as well as that article you may have seen) says that the problem has been identified and production is back on schedule, albeit delayed from the initial timeline. We are now looking at some sort of announcement ~Q1 2023.

3. Dodge would like to limit 'flipping' since it will be a highly sought-after, valuable car. They also are not a fan of massive ADM gouging and their plan addresses both of these concerns.

4. Combining 1 and 2 above they may be looking at giving a shot to Demon owners who bought their car new AND still own it. This serves double duty of limiting flipping (since these owners could have flipped 100x over by now and haven't) and it also shrinks that 3312 Demon owner pool by a big percentage. 50%? 70% 80%? This route has not been set but is being seriously considered.

5. Horsepower may very well be in excess of 1000hp. This contradicts what I was originally told but to me, it makes more sense when you hear that they are grenading engines. 900hp? As many have noted here, that seems unlikely. 1000+? More likely. Anyhow not confirmed but this HP range was strongly hinted at by someone I trust. I have been unable to get more detail on how they get to their final number but others online are suggesting the Hellaphant 3.0 blower and a smaller pulley and of course E85. I asked about the "electric" supercharger but so far no one can confirm or deny that. To me the idea seems silly, but I guess you never know.

6. Dealers are completely in the dark. This is why I was hesitant to accept what DRAGRCR was suggesting initially. None of the big dealers are aware of this possible plan, and I've spoken to over 125 of them over the past couple of weeks. In fact, many are making car #7 lists and several are taking deposits on a car that has not been revealed. I guess keeping them in the dark makes sense if the plan is to cut them out of the process.

7. If all of this comes to pass (again -not certain-), there would be a registration process/window to show you are a Demon owner (and possibly that you are the original owner). There would then be an expedited approval process to make sure what you provided was indeed true.

8. I was told some or all of the payment would go directly through Dodge. The price would be MSRP, no ADM. The way it could work from there is how DRAGRCR said. The customer would decide what local dealer gets delivery.

9. Related to 7, my source says the powers that be are -not- a fan of a lottery. They would much rather be able to make enough cars that fit the end criteria Dodge ultimately uses (that also gets them into the desired production of ~300-700 units).

10. On that last point, I asked why such deference to Demon owners? Answer given: "Because they were promised that no Challenger would ever exceed the Demon." Well, this one will. So one way for Tim K to keep his word is to offer these owners an opportunity to buy this last-call car. If you look at it in that light, it begins to make sense. Tim is many things, including a guy who seems to be genuine and someone who doesn't want to go back on his word. Call me jaded, but I was surprised that this was an actual consideration.

Again, nothing above is a stone-cold fact but simply (well-placed) rumblings I am hearing from people in the know who I trust. A LOT has shifted apparently over the past week or so. Dodge is surely hearing about how Last Call Cars 1-6 are being jacked up to crazy levels. Another possible factor there could be news that the dealerships are also planning to ask ASTRONOMICAL ADMs for the #7 car if given the chance. No idea where they might have gotten that type of dealer-specific intel! ;) Maybe all the recent dealer skullduggery is shifting how Dodge will deal with their final ICE Halo Car. As of right now, the process definitely still seems to be fluid. The downtime to get the car right likely will also be used to figure out how to allocate it. Whatever they decide, at least it won't be rushed.

From where I am sitting, all of this intrigue is pretty interesting. It reminds me of the massive hype build-up for the Demon. I think it would be fitting if Dodge goes out on a similar hype-machine extravaganza...
I find it amazing...throughout the whole thread..everybody seems to know an insider...or has a buddy who has a cousin that was dating a girl...whose brother worked on the SRT team...you personally have called 125 dealers..(slow week @ work?)...countless You Tube supposed info....So what do we really know for sure after all this...nothing...:oops::oops::oops:;)...maybe that's a good thing:unsure:
 


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I find it amazing...throughout the whole thread..everybody seems to know an insider...or has a buddy who has a cousin that was dating a girl...whose brother worked on the SRT team...you personally have called 125 dealers..(slow week @ work?)...countless You Tube supposed info....So what do we really know for sure after all this...nothing...:oops::oops::oops:;)...maybe that's a good thing:unsure:
You mad you don't have one:unsure:
 


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You mad you don't have one:unsure:
A Utube...?????..I got a helluva Utube..:giggle::giggle:;)
 


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I find it amazing...throughout the whole thread..everybody seems to know an insider...or has a buddy who has a cousin that was dating a girl...whose brother worked on the SRT team...you personally have called 125 dealers..(slow week @ work?)...countless You Tube supposed info....So what do we really know for sure after all this...nothing...:oops::oops::oops:;)...maybe that's a good thing:unsure:

I know a couple, and they don't know anything (or won't say).
 


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I find it amazing...throughout the whole thread..everybody seems to know an insider...or has a buddy who has a cousin that was dating a girl...whose brother worked on the SRT team...you personally have called 125 dealers..(slow week @ work?)...countless You Tube supposed info....So what do we really know for sure after all this...nothing...:oops::oops::oops:;)...maybe that's a good thing:unsure:
Thanks Johnny Buzz-kill.
 


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An insider person:LOL:
....whose cousins, girlfriends, mom's friend, who works in a different department heard from someone in the cafeteria.................


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....whose cousins, girlfriends, mom's friend, who works in a different department heard from someone in the cafeteria.................


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Yep I guess he doesn't even have that
 


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Ok, it may be time to chow on a little crow. After digging (and more digging) it -may- turn out that some of what Mr. RacerX (and our own highly credible DRAGRCR) have recently reported as it relates to the elusive Last Call Car #7 could be closer to the truth than I originally surmised.

Now mind you, nothing has been OFFICIALLY said either way by Dodge brass (yet), but those who know TimK well -seem- to be leaking bits and pieces.

A few things I learned in the last 24h or so...

0. Believe it or not Mr. RacerX may in fact be getting some/most of his intel straight from Dodge. If you go back to his early posts he suggested that Dodge reached out to him. I am not a subscriber to the guy so I'm betting some of you may know more about his background. All I know is that he raced a modded HC a few years ago and has a fair number of followers, so Dodge may be using his ability to spread information quickly. Regardless, he needs to plant a tree or two in his yard! lol.

1. Zero percent chance Dodge can or wants to produce 3312 of these cars (i.e. the Demon production number). I am told a number closer to 500 is what is likely possible in this short run (esp with production and mechanical issues they are experiencing).

2. As for the recent mechanical issues that have been reported, my source (as well as that article you may have seen) says that the problem has been identified and production is back on schedule, albeit delayed from the initial timeline. We are now looking at some sort of announcement ~Q1 2023.

3. Dodge would like to limit 'flipping' since it will be a highly sought-after, valuable car. They also are not a fan of massive ADM gouging and their plan addresses both of these concerns.

4. Combining 1 and 2 above they may be looking at giving a shot to Demon owners who bought their car new AND still own it. This serves double duty of limiting flipping (since these owners could have flipped 100x over by now and haven't) and it also shrinks that 3312 Demon owner pool by a big percentage. 50%? 70% 80%? This route has not been set but is being seriously considered.

5. Horsepower may very well be in excess of 1000hp. This contradicts what I was originally told but to me, it makes more sense when you hear that they are grenading engines. 900hp? As many have noted here, that seems unlikely. 1000+? More likely. Anyhow not confirmed but this HP range was strongly hinted at by someone I trust. I have been unable to get more detail on how they get to their final number but others online are suggesting the Hellaphant 3.0 blower and a smaller pulley and of course E85. I asked about the "electric" supercharger but so far no one can confirm or deny that. To me the idea seems silly, but I guess you never know.

6. Dealers are completely in the dark. This is why I was hesitant to accept what DRAGRCR was suggesting initially. None of the big dealers are aware of this possible plan, and I've spoken to over 125 of them over the past couple of weeks. In fact, many are making car #7 lists and several are taking deposits on a car that has not been revealed. I guess keeping them in the dark makes sense if the plan is to cut them out of the process.

7. If all of this comes to pass (again -not certain-), there would be a registration process/window to show you are a Demon owner (and possibly that you are the original owner). There would then be an expedited approval process to make sure what you provided was indeed true.

8. I was told some or all of the payment would go directly through Dodge. The price would be MSRP, no ADM. The way it could work from there is how DRAGRCR said. The customer would decide what local dealer gets delivery.

9. Related to 7, my source says the powers that be are -not- a fan of a lottery. They would much rather be able to make enough cars that fit the end criteria Dodge ultimately uses (that also gets them into the desired production of ~300-700 units).

10. On that last point, I asked why such deference to Demon owners? Answer given: "Because they were promised that no Challenger would ever exceed the Demon." Well, this one will. So one way for Tim K to keep his word is to offer these owners an opportunity to buy this last-call car. If you look at it in that light, it begins to make sense. Tim is many things, including a guy who seems to be genuine and someone who doesn't want to go back on his word. Call me jaded, but I was surprised that this was an actual consideration.

Again, nothing above is a stone-cold fact but simply (well-placed) rumblings I am hearing from people in the know who I trust. A LOT has shifted apparently over the past week or so. Dodge is surely hearing about how Last Call Cars 1-6 are being jacked up to crazy levels. Another possible factor there could be news that the dealerships are also planning to ask ASTRONOMICAL ADMs for the #7 car if given the chance. No idea where they might have gotten that type of dealer-specific intel! ;) Maybe all the recent dealer skullduggery is shifting how Dodge will deal with their final ICE Halo Car. As of right now, the process definitely still seems to be fluid. The downtime to get the car right likely will also be used to figure out how to allocate it. Whatever they decide, at least it won't be rushed.

From where I am sitting, all of this intrigue is pretty interesting. It reminds me of the massive hype build-up for the Demon. I think it would be fitting if Dodge goes out on a similar hype-machine extravaganza...
Well, I'm out if they do this plan, but I hope they do that plan.
To hell with all these dealers hoarding these cars and holding them ransom.

I still think they will have a handful of cars going to the public somehow but avoiding the dealer would be a cherry on top.

This is where you can say a Challenger is worth 125-150k. I can see Dodge tacking on their own MSRP and pricing the cars at this point to even make it worth their time.

So would Huntington Beach Dodge get 16 of these cars since they still are the original owners of them?
 


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Yep I guess he doesn't even have that
I have enough "buddies"..that don't know shit...:rolleyes:
 


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I know a couple, and they don't know anything (or won't say).
Everybody's got a buddy...:giggle::giggle::giggle:;)
 


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Some of ya'll got way too much time on your hands LOL. I've now seen a second report of this thing having an electric supercharger. NO THANKS if that's true. It wouldn't surprise me since they're pushing the electric BS so hard. "See look even our top last super edition Challenger has electrification! Never mind it's infinitely more complex and heavier than simply bolting on a 3.0L blower, we had to do it! They made us!"
 




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