What's going on with Car #7 (a semi-objective analysis)...

[EricG]

These could all be for a different car or the Ram trucks?

 

[Illegal_Demon]

He also said something about the trans.
Dodge ordered a shitload of hybrid 8 speed transmissions

Maybe the electric supercharger was misunderstood and this car is getting the hybrid ZF trans.

If that is the case, I can really see Dodge not limiting the build of this car to just 500 or so.
Because that is huge R&D money. Unless that tech will be in the next gen ICE Challenger/Charger.

They have a lot of toys to play with.
I still think with the new NHRA rules they try and push for 9 flat or even an 8.90 time. That way, they can go off into the sunset as the fastest production car ever. Something the Demon held for a few months.

8.9 wont hold for long either. EVS will pass that soon enough.

what they likely CAN go down FOREVER tho is the fastest ICE 1/4 mile car/time of ALL TIME....

thats why i want it...

 

[Boris]

I wonder what happened to them?

One of the articles stated 2022 when they would be available.

The stupid electric supercharger comments spreading across the internet came from somewhere.

These could all be for a different car or the Ram trucks?

Likely planned across the board for gas powered FCA cars.
But the pic shows that it appears to be front engine and rear drive.
That is your Ram trucks, Grand Cherokee, Wagoneer, Challenger and Charger.
Jeep already has its hybrid system
e-Torque exists but I can see the I6 getting this trans to try and match Hellcat performance but also 35+ MPG

 

[Boris]

8.9 wont hold for long either. EVS will pass that soon enough.

what they likely CAN go down FOREVER tho is the faster ICE 1/4 mile car/time of ALL TIME....

thats why i want it...

It will be another hero run for sure.
Anyone that cares what this car runs, likely doesn't give a shit what the EVs will do.

You already have 1000hp 9000lbs tank on the road that will outrun the TRX. But no way would I trade a TRX for it (unless i can sell it for 250k and buy 2 TRXs!!!)

 

[vortecd]

8.9 wont hold for long either. EVS will pass that soon enough.

what they likely CAN go down FOREVER tho is the faster ICE 1/4 mile car/time of ALL TIME....

thats why i want it...

Or rwd

 

[Speedy!]

So I said it'd be a flex fuel Hellcat with a 3.0L blower like 2 months ago I think at 1009hp lol. But RacerX so...

 

[BULL]

So I said it'd be a flex fuel Hellcat with a 3.0L blower like 2 months ago I think at 1009hp lol. But RacerX so...

You should Tag him with a link...

 

[vortecd]

So I said it'd be a flex fuel Hellcat with a 3.0L blower like 2 months ago I think at 1009hp lol. But RacerX so...

I think a few of us were thinking this. We knew something was happening with e85 and they already had the 3.0

 

[Speedy!]

I went and looked and my video was in July I'm gonna go comment on RacerX and link and ask him where he's been with all his insider info!

 

[Illegal_Demon]

What no one is talking about is what NEW LOOKS will we get? Hood needs to be unique for sure. Any thoughts on that?

Flares only on back have been mentioned with carbon wheels. That’s about it.

 

[Speedy!]

Probably a few decals. They don't have the money to do too much development on body panels.

 

[jroyk]

Probably a few decals. They don't have the money to do too much development on body panels.

They have a blank check for sticker procurement.

 

[Illegal_Demon]

Gotta think they need a new/unique hood at a minimum...

 

[DavidKFla]

Gotta think they need a new/unique hood at a minimum...

Maybe a Demon hood?

 

[1971demon]

Well hell I should make a video that my cousin in the plant says it'll be twin turbo

Break out the popcorn...it's showtime..

 

[1971demon]

Break out the popcorn...it's showtime..

I must admit..I don't do you Tube...but if CC would use a little creativity....and spice up his videos with former porn stars...like takin his daily jaunts to the Ford store..and picken up porn stars hitchikin...to see how many he could fit in one of those goofy EV's...now that I would watch more times than Goodfellas

 

[Illegal_Demon]

Maybe a Demon hood?

That’s the easy button but if you are saying “ one for the record books“ I think it must have a few unique and very recognizable visual queues. It’s own Hood would be the most obvious way to do that imo.

 

[DavidKFla]

That’s the easy button but if you are saying “ one for the record books“ I think it must have a few unique and very recognizable visual queues. It’s own Hood would be the most obvious way to do that imo.

I'm out on any of these cars. Wanted the 1320 Super Bee, B5, narrow body Charger. Got nothing but insane dealer markups.

 

[Illegal_Demon]

I'm out on any of these cars. Wanted the 1320 Super Bee, B5, narrow body Charger. Got nothing but insane dealer markups.

I don't think it's going to be easy for anyone who does want "in" on these cars. To even get the opportunity (at any adm), it will be a challenge. If they build 200-300 and give dealers allocations, then I think only a handful of those 200 will ever be in private customer garages/collections. The overwhelming majority will be dealership owned, permanently.

Even if Tim bypasses dealerships and enacts his "Demon owner" plan, at 200-300 units we are talking about a lottery where ppl are disappointed. Supposedly Tim is considering this since he "promised" that the Demon would be Dodge's all-time top (ice) drag car. It may be why he is considering such a plan. However, imo, there are other possible reasons for going this route, including a way to justify very low production (See "2" below).

Lowest % case:

1. Any and all Demon owners get a raffle ticket. Well, at 3312 (Demons produced) PLUS second and third and fourth, etc Demon owners down the line, we are looking at 10,000 plus "Demon owners". You figure 50% of the eligible people might actually apply for car 7. So 300/5,000 = 6% shot to get one (if you owned a Demon at one point in the past/present).

Highest % case:

2. Only original Demon owners who still own their cars get a raffle ticket. This would presumably show brand loyalty (didn't sell despite easy profit), minimize the undesired possibility of big immediate flipping, and would get the numbers closer to a ~ 300 desired build. Again, starting with 3312 made and assuming most have flipped by now, that leaves maybe 25%? So maybe they would be looking at ~800 eligible people or so. If half of those owners apply, that gets you to 400 raffle tickets for 300 cars. That's a 75% chance. Not guaranteed but a lot better than a 1-in-16 shot (6%).

That's my speculation for the day, lol.

#Popcorn

 

[DavidKFla]

I don't think it's going to be easy for anyone who does want "in" on these cars. To even get the opportunity (at any adm), it will be a challenge. If they build 200-300 and give dealers allocations, then I think only a handful of those 200 will ever be in private customer garages/collections. The overwhelming majority will be dealership owned, permanently.

Even if Tim bypasses dealerships and enacts his "Demon owner" plan, at 200-300 units we are talking about a lottery where ppl are disappointed.

Lowest % case:

1. Any and all Demon owners get a raffle ticket. Well, at 3312 (Demons produced) PLUS second and third and fourth, etc Demon owners down the line, we are looking at 10,000 plus "Demon owners". You figure 50% of the eligible people might actually apply for car 7. So 300/5,000 = 6% shot to get one (if you owned a Demon at one point in the past/present).

Highest % case:

2. Only original Demon owners who still own their cars get a raffle ticket. This would presumably show brand loyalty (no flip even tho flipping = easy profit), minimize the undesired possibility of big immediate flipping, and would get the numbers closer to an ~ 300 desired build. 3312 made. Most have flipped by now. 25% of original owners remain? So maybe 800 eligible people. If half of those apply that gets you to 400 raffle tickets for 300 cars. That's a 75% chance. Not guaranteed but a lot better than a 1-in-16 shot (6%).

That's my speculation for the day, lol.

#Popcorn

I can get one of the 1320 Chargers. I'm not willing to pay what they're asking.